| Zacherle Hoag Interview with Sherry Shriner:
Alien Agenda and the New World Order
Q: First what is your basic theory as to what is
going on in the world right now?
A. There are two different civilizations fighting it out for world
domination and control of the earth. The humans and the aliens. The humans
establishing the New World Order are divided themselves into various lesser
factions within the families of this alien group called the Illuminati. It
is the Illuminati itself, run and overseen by a Council of Aliens who pull
the strings of these alien-hybrid families and have them establishing and
implementing this political agenda called the New World Order. When the
aliens are through having their hybrid children pave the way for them
through this NWO they will ascend to earth and take over rule for themselves
through their leader, whom we call the Antichrist.
Q: What are the different types of alien races that you have uncovered in
A. There are approximately 57 different races that have been identified and
there could be more. However there are really just two main groups of them
of which all of these races fall into. The Enki and the Enlil. Regardless of
what disinformation is given on these two groups, it breaks down to this:
The Enki are all of the fallen angels who rebelled with Lucifer and were
cast out of heaven. Part of their judgment for doing so was that they lost
their angelic looks. That's why there's so many various ugly alien races,
because they lost their angelic looks. The non-human looking alien races are
the Enki. The Enlil are the Watchers who left heaven and came to earth to
procreate with human women (Gen. 6:4). They fell before the flood and after.
The Watchers never lost their angelic looks and look humanoid, in other
words like humans. The Enlil are very tall with some being over 9 feet tall.
The average is probably 7 feet. The children they had with human women were
born giants, such as Goliath who was 9 and a half feet tall. Common names
for the Enlil today are the Annunaki, Nephilim, Nordics, etc.
Q: Who are the Annunaki?
A. The Annunaki from ancient Sumerian times are known as "those who from
heaven came to earth." They lie about who they are and proclaim they are our
ancestors who created us and then left planet Earth and that they are now
returning to help us clean up the mess we've made of our environment. The
Bible says they are the angels who rebelled and left heaven to procreate
with human women producing giants as children. The ancient prophet Enoch
details them very well in his book, Enoch, in chapter 10. The mixing and
contamination of human DNA with fallen angels was so dominant that there
were only 8 people left with pure human DNA so the Lord destroyed the world
with a flood. Even after the flood the fall of angels from heaven continued
and many cities were built by these giant offspring. Eventually, the
Israelites led by Joshua and Caleb destroyed these cities and ended the
domination of giants as the Israelites conquered the land "flowing with milk
and honey" for themselves after their exodus from Egypt.
Q: There is a lot of talk about a treaty that the government made with
aliens. What exactly is the story there?
A. There is evidence that indicates President Eisenhower met with a group of
tall Grey aliens at Edwards Air Force base in 1954 in which a formal treaty
was signed between the United States Government and this alien nation. Since
then many additional treaties have been signed with them including the
stipulation that our government would deny the existence of aliens and UFOs
in our air space. Within these treaties it is agreed that alien technology
would be given to our government in exchange for silence and denial while
these same aliens slaughter our animals and abduct American citizens for
breeding, experiments, and to be eaten for food.
Q: How does alien/human hybriding tie in to all of this?
A. The aliens allegedly lied to our government claiming their race was dying
and they only needed a limited number of humans (Americans) to experiment on
to be able to help them keep their own race alive. In reality, they have
abducted hundreds of thousands of citizens using them for breeding,
cross-breeding, DNA contamination, and food. The aliens eat humans. At the
same time they have been able to successfully cross-breed alien genes with
human genes creating their own hybrid race that we refer to as Star children
or Indigo children. Zechariah Sitchin, Dr. Richard Boylan and others will
spread disinformation to keep the real truth from being told as to what
these children really are and where they are really from. Just as they do
about the aliens themselves.
Q: How do aliens possess human bodies?
A. Aliens can possess human bodies through a changing of human DNA. This is
why so much information has come out in regards to rituals and blood
drinking. This changes regular human DNA into a more palatable form for
aliens to be able to walk in and possess a human body. Human DNA can also be
changed, or tweaked through strict vegetarian dieting or even natural
medicines that change amino-based DNA into a more crystalline DNA. I don't
understand all the technicalities of how they do it, but this is a general
understanding of it. One of the more obvious characteristics of an
alien-possessed human is the black soul-less eyes, or eyes that don't
reflect light off their pupils.
Q: What is Planet X and how does it figure into things?
A. Planet X is an ancient planet formerly called Rahab that was cast out of
our solar system. Rahab was the former seat and home of Lucifer. When
Lucifer rebelled against the Lord part of the immediate judgment against him
was losing his home. It was destroyed by hailstones of fire and cast out of
our solar system. During the judgment and pounding of hailstones against it
the planet's inhabitants were forced to flee to the hollow inside of the
hollow planet. It has been the prison of these inhabitants since. In the
last days when Lucifer comes to power as the Biblical Antichrist those
locked up inside this planet will be loosed and allowed to ascend to earth
to help him conquer and control the earth under his power. As this Planet X
comes increasingly closer not only will its arrival cause mass destruction
from the gravitational pull it will cause on earth but it signals the
impending arrival of Lucifer as well since they are part of his forces that
will help him maintain control of the earth.
Q: Do the theories of “hollow earth” tie in with all this?
A. Most if not all of the planets and luminaries of our solar system are
hollow. The hollow earth contains many terrestrial-alien bases and
underground cities. As well as many human underground bases and cities that
our military and shadow government of the New World Order have built. Aliens
are not extra-terrestrial beings. They are terrestrial beings that inhabit
our solar system within the first and second heavens and our subterranean
earth. Hell is also located deep within the hollow earth that contains the
souls of all those who died and rejected Jesus-Yahushua as their Savior.
Many of these subterranean alien races will come to the surface when Lucifer
comes to power on earth.
Q: What is the Dulce Base and what can you tell us a little bit about the
A. The Dulce Base is a major underground grey alien base located under an
Indian reservation in Dulce, New Mexico. It is also a major hub for the
underground shuttle system that criss-crosses under America and connects all
the underground bases together from one side of our country to the other.
There are seven known levels of this base, a virtual underground city that
is alleged to be the size of Manhattan, and seven levels deep. These levels
are not measured as we would measure a 7 story building. Each level could be
100, or 200 feet or higher in height alone, while perhaps others are
smaller. These bases such as Dulce go down for several miles within the
earth and contain many miles of space within them. Many UFO abductees have
remembered being taken to Dulce and there was some information released by a
former security guard that I have on my website at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com
as well my article on the Dulce base at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/sherry/dulce-base.html
Q: Some conspiracy theorists have said that the alien conspiracy is
manufactured disinfo and that alien abductions are actually just mind
control scenarios. How do you feel about this?
A. Well there are many agendas at work to release information, discredit
information, and confuse the whole alien-UFO issue so people don't know what
to think. Project Blue Book was established not to seriously gather and
investigate claims of UFO and alien sightings, but to gather all the
information they could just so they could publicly discredit it. Project
Yellow Book was the real project investigating the claims made. There are
real UFO and alien sightings just as there are military manufactured ones to
discredit the real ones. William Cooper caught on to how both scenarios and
agendas were working together to deceive the public. Our government owns
their own UFO fleet piloted by NSA and DIA pilots and they will also
masquerade as aliens to implement their own black agendas.
Q: Who are the Illuminati?
A. The Illuminati are what they call themselves the "illuminated or
enlightened ones." They are aliens, i.e. fallen angels posing as our
creators and forefathers. They control the earth behind the scenes via an
Illuminati Council. Their children, the hybrid 13 Illuminati bloodline
families, what they refer to as the "elite" bloodlines, answer to the
Council and follow their orders in implementing the New World Order on
earth. I have more information on this at http://www.sherryshriner.com/sherry/serpent-illuminati.htm
Q: Why are bloodlines so important to these people?
A. The specific bloodlines of the Illuminati hybrid families have been
preserved through inter-marrying over the ages. Instead of trying to keep
alien and DNA contamination out of their bloodlines they work to keep pure
human DNA from entering into their bloodlines. Those in these families are
born with a specific alien DNA that can be activated through ritual and
blood drinking to allow for the alien possession of their bodies. The aliens
can literally possess their bodies. This possession allows these humans to
shape-shift and be controlled by the aliens themselves. These bloodlines are
not controlled by the Grey aliens but the lizard type known as the
Reptilians. Many people such as Arizona Wilder, Cathy O'Brien, and Bryce
Taylor have seen people from these bloodline families such as George Bush
Sr., Dick Cheney, Al Gore, Queen Elizabeth, and others shapeshift into
Reptilians. It is not "humans" that run our governments.
Q: There is a lot of speculation concerning possible reptilian bloodlines
being the driving force behind the NWO. Could you go into to this a little
and talk a little bit about the shapeshifting presidents.
A. The Bible says that Satan is the prince and the power of the air, that he
can transform (morph, shapeshift) into an angel of light. Satan rules both
factions, the Enki and the Enlil. He can shapeshift into an Enlil, his old
angelic form and look 'heavenly' and humanoid. I have pictures of him at my
website http://www.thewatcherfiles.com So also can the tall greys
shapeshift as Enlil. In fact Maitreya, Sananda, St. Germaine, all of these
Ascended Masters coming out of the New Age crowd are tall grey aliens who
shapeshift into humanoid Enlils. You can read about it at my website http://www.nesarasucks.com
It is these beings who play being anti-NWO that are indeed the ones working
with the Illuminati Council to establish the NWO here, then they'll replace
the NWO with themselves as they ascend to earth and work with Satan/Lucifer
to deceive the world that Satan-Sananda is "God." All of the governments on
earth implementing and establishing the NWO agenda are mere pawns of these
aliens who control them through the Illuminati Council. And you will also
find that those in power of world governments are all inter-connected
through Illuminati bloodline families. If you look at America's history,
almost all of our presidents are related minus maybe three of them. They all
carried and carry alien-DNA.
Q: You believe that the Jesuits are major players in the globalist/antichrist
conspiracy. Just what is the extent of the Jesuits and Count Peter Hans
Kolvenbach’s (Superior General of the Society of Jesus) power?
A. The Jesuits are the right arm of Satan in running and controlling the
religions and governments of this world. The Black Pope, Peter Hans
Kolvenbach is Satan's right hand man who rules over and directs the
Jesuits. The Vatican is Satan's seat on Earth. It is not the position of
the white pope, or the pope we see, such as Pope Ratzinger that has the real
power in the Vatican, the real power comes from a position hidden away from
public view that rules over and controls the white pope and that is the
position known as the black pope. And that is the position Peter Hans
Kolvenbach holds today. It is the Black Pope that controls and rules over
the Jesuits, and thus all the intelligence agencies and governments around
the world are under his control. Even in religion and those in powerful and
influential religious positions such as Billy Graham, Benny Hinn, Pat
Robertson, Kenneth Copeland, Robert Schuller and many others in these
positions of power and influence are secretly Jesuits or high ranking Masons
who answer to the Vatican.
Q: In the realm of conspiracy theories the biggest is probably the JFK
assassination. Why do you believe JFK was assassinated?
A. There are several interesting reasons as to why JFK was assassinated.
Some people believe it was because he wanted to end the Vietnam War (which
was being directed by the Vatican because the Vietnamese didn't want
Catholicism there), another being that he wanted a full UFO and alien
disclosure (which was being hidden by the shadow government), he also wanted
a restructuring perhaps complete elimination of the CIA. But the one I find
interesting and that is never talked about is the fact that Kennedy wanted
Fidel Castro assassinated. He ordered the Bay of Pigs invasion which was set
up by the CIA and military but at the same time the CIA had trained a group
of Cuban fighters to fight against the incoming Bay of Pigs invasion, which
is why the invasion was a failure. Not to mention the fact that it was the
Mafia that was hired (out of Chicago) to assassinate Castro and they could
never seemingly get the job done because the Mafia itself didn't want to
eliminate Castro. But the job that did get done was Kennedy's own death. Our
CIA (and Mafia) was protecting Fidel Castro..instead of eliminating him they
eliminated Kennedy who kept insisting Castro be assassinated. Interesting
isn't it? After all, with the NWO coming into play even back then it is a
communistic-fascist order that dominates it, not democracy. That's why it's
often referred to as the 4th Reich. The chief of our own Department of
Homeland Security is ex-KGB. It is former KGB agents now in top positions in
America who designed the impending National ID cards and the system by which
they will be used. It is a Russian General in charge of all military troops
in the United Nations. Kennedy was to American and to Democratic for the
evil ills of the New World Order and he wasn't going to be bullied by them
or the Vatican and that's why I believe they killed him.
Q: Could you tell us how you became interested in bible codes?
A. The Lord led me into the codes several years ago. I had no idea why at
the time I just kept feeling led to buy the software. Finally I bought the
software and thought for sure I would never learn how to use it. It's
complicated. But the Lord led me to others who could answer questions and
help me out and He also led me Himself on how to operate it and understand
not only what I was doing, but how to interpret what I was finding and how
to analyze it. I realized along the way that with the skill I had developed
in working the software that I could easily debunk false codes that were
being promoted as truth. The whole Da Vinci Code and Holy Grail stuff that
was coming out was a bunch of Illuminati and NWO lies and disinfo and they
were trying to use the codes to prove their lies were truth. I used the same
codes to show and prove why they weren't and how they did the codes wrong to
begin with in trying to justify their blasphemies and lies. I can prove or
disprove any code and find the real truth. I'm one of the best at the codes
and they know it. That's why they try to discredit the codes, or even me,
because they know I can beat them at their own games upholding the truth of
the Bible and the codes. People say the codes are from Satan, all I can ask
is, how did Satan know the beginning from the end of time and how did he get
his hands on God's Word to encode it if it was inspired by God? The codes
prove God is who He said He is and that He is the Alpha and the Omega. That
He does know the end from the beginning. The Bible is either inspired or it
isn't. It's either from the devil or it's from God. Just because some have
erred in their interpretations of the codes doesn't mean the codes aren't
valid. They just weren't interpreting them correctly to begin with.
Q: How did you become involved in Reverse Speech and has it helped you in
your journey for the truth?
A. I got interested in Reverse Speech after having met Peggy Kane and having
her on my radio show to reveal and discuss her findings. I was fascinated by
it. It was a whole new area and even a weapon to use in exposing the lies
and revealing the truth of what's really going on with people and even our
government today. The founder, David Oates just has a remarkable technology
in his hands. I haven't had as much time as I would like to spend on it, but
what I have been able to find with it just clarifies and confirms things or
even brings greater things to light that you weren't fully aware of before.
Q: What is the Book of Enoch and why is it suppressed by the church?
A. The Book of Enoch was originally included in the Apocrypha and also even
the original KJV Ethiopian version. But it was never included in the
Protestant-American KJV version. Even though Enoch is made reference to
several times and the church itself acknowledges him as a great prophet and
patriarch of its own history and genealogy. At the same time most people
will admit they don't know anything about him and that's because they
excluded the Book of Enoch from the Bible. Enoch wrote 365 books. Where are
they? Why aren't they, or even one of them in our Bible? Because the Vatican
didn't want it included. The Vatican wanted to leave the church(s) in the
dark about our past and what the days were really like in the days of Noah.
They hid our past so we wouldn't recognize what's coming in our future.
Jesus-Yahushua said the last days would be as "the days of Noah" and most of
the churches just believe a general time of sin and wickedness. They have no
idea what the real and whole truth is. UFOs, alien cross-breeding,
hybridization, abductions, everything going on today would be more
understood by the churches instead of hidden if they had left Enoch in the
Bible. Not to mention the fact that in the days of Noah when the giants ran
out of animals to eat they would feed off of humans. And all that is coming
back again in the last days. When the Annunaki come masquerading as heavenly
beings it won't last long until people realize them for what they really are
and by then it will be too late to do anything about it. And when the times
of prophesied famine come, who or what do you think these Annunaki are going
to be eating? They're going to be feasting on humans, just as in the days
Q: Could you tell us more about Maitreya, St. Germaine, Mabus, and Sananda?
A. I believe Sananda is Satan in an angelic humanoid form. Satan always
wanted to be worshipped as God. And whose picture has been hanging in our
churches for the past 1,500 years? Sananda. The picture of "Jesus" painted
by Michelangelo was none other than Sananda or Satan himself. Imagine that.
All this time churchdom has practically worshipped that picture as being
Jesus and it's none other than Satan himself.
Maitreya is a hideous psychopath playing an Arab who will come touting
himself as a great world teacher. He will try to unite all of the world's
religions and be "all things to all people." The Christians and Jews would
never accept Maitreya as the or even a Messiah..so they'll use Maitreya to
deceive the Arabs and anyone else who won't accept Sananda as the Messiah.
In Matthew 24 it says that many will come saying "I AM." Christ and deceive
many.. and these New Age "Ascended Masters" certainly do that...they all
claim "I AM" and that they are Gods, or reached Godhood. Maitreya's been
associated with Ethiopia and that's probably where his final appearance here
on earth will originate from, where Sananda will come in the clouds in a
charade of UFOs portraying the prophesied Second Coming of Christ to deceive
the Christians and Jews.
Saint Germaine is supposed to establish NESARA here on earth, the political
and economic agenda of the Antichrist's. He also claims to have been several
incarnations of various people throughout our history such as Shakespeare
and that he was the one who wrote/translated the KJV for King James.
Mabus could simply be Maitreya. I don't see a huge difference in their roles
and they both will originate out of Africa. Mabus will play an Arab
peacemaker who dies after a short time. It was Nostradamus who introduced
the coming of this individual in his own writings. Neither the Bible or the
New Age crowd talks about a coming Mabus, at least not with that name.
Nostradamus prophesied that when Mabus dies a comet will strike the earth.
Mabus is indeed an alien, i.e. fallen angel playing Ascended Master. But
they won't tell you that. Another thought is that this Mabus will be a
political leader who rises to make peace in the Middle East, such as a
leader of the PLO etc..The whole charade can be played either way so I guess
we'll find out which one they go with. Satan and his aliens always have more
than one plan to bring one of their goons into power or to fulfill a certain
Q: Why do you consider Paul a false prophet?
A. Before Jesus-Yahushua left He warned His disciples to beware of the
leaven of the Pharisees and that people wouldn't accept Him (Yahushua) as
the Messiah but that one would come in his own name and that the people
would accept him. He was prophesying about the entrance of Paul. People
confuse it with a prophecy about the Antichrist when it was about Paul. Who,
by the way, was a Pharisee. Yahushua appointed 12 apostles, not 13. Matthias
replaced Judas, not Paul. Paul wrote 13 books of which he mentions or refers
to himself over 500 times. He was an egotistical self-centered Antichrist
who led people away from the truths that Jesus and the legitimate apostles
taught and into errors. I have a whole website about Paul at http://www.justgivemethetruth.com
For those who wonder why the Bible always sounds contradictory and never
makes sense, now you know why. Paul was full of contradictions, "I've never
been circumcised" "I was circumcised on the 8th day after I was born" blah
blah, he lies and contradicts himself throughout all of his books and even
tells his own conversion story different every time he told it, the sign of
a pathological liar who can't remember his lies. What's it going to take for
people to wake up and realize who and what Paul was? And these are mostly
the same people worshipping the picture of Satan/Sananda as Jesus.
Q: Why do you think the late conspiracy theorist William Cooper went back on
his claims of UFOs and aliens later on in his life?
A. He didn't go back on them. He realized what was going on and the game
that was being played and that's why they were going to throw him in jail to
silence him, but he refused to be taken alive and died in a stand-off with
police. If you read his writings as much as I have or even his book it's
clear that he knew there was a real existence of UFOs and aliens, and then
he also stumbled on the black ops agenda to mimic UFOs and aliens with their
own accumulated technology. There are many, thousands, perhaps millions of
people who have had real UFO abductions, and then you'll hear of some that
are just outrageous where a person was abducted and taken to a military
base, or they could see black thread around the black eyes of the supposed
alien. Real aliens don't speak verbally, they speak through telepathy. Most
people don't realize that our government has as much as a chipping program
going on as the aliens do. They're both involved in abducting people to
implant them with chips for tracking and controlling. It was the aliens who
gave our military the technology and that's why people are being abducted to
military bases, implanted and then let go. Because the military now has
their own black ops agenda with implanting people with chips separate from
the alien’s agenda.
Q: What researchers and books do you suggest to the reader? Websites?
A. Well my own of course, Aliens on the Internet and also Bible Codes
Revealed: The Coming UFO Invasion. I also would suggest Bryce Taylor's
Thanks for the Memories, Cathy O'Brien's Trance-Formation of America,
William Cooper's Behold a Pale Horse and Eric Jon Phelps’s Vatican Assassins
at http://www.vaticanassassins.org. Also you can read for free Branton's
(Bruce Alan Walton) material that I have on my site at http://www.thewatcherfiles.com
you can read his books on the Dulce Base, the Omega Files and The Cosmic
Conflict which were huge stepping stones in my beginning understanding of
what was really going on with aliens, UFOs and underground bases.